CW: Suicide, depression, anxiety

This episode is challenging for a variety of reasons, but we also make each other laugh a lot and we are joined at the beginning by a very special guest: Sadie! She helps us explore the little-known family obstacle course game show, Family Challenge! A lot of thought went into this one, folks.

Listen to the beginning to hear Sadie, listen to the end to hear Jen get real about mental health, and listen to the middle for laughs, but whatever you do, do not watch Family Challenge. Under no circumstances should you search for “Family Challenge Flynn vs. Miller” on that popular video website on the internets. This is not one of those times where we mean you should really watch it as we’re saying not to. We’re not winking. Really don’t watch it. Please.